If you ever had any doubt the American judicial system is broken or biased then read this article written by an...

If you ever had any doubt the American judicial system is broken or biased then read this article written by an attorney who really wanted to see how the system worked for the average joe.
http://m.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/i-got-myself-arrested-so-i-could-look-inside-the-justice-system/282360/

Comments

Bobby Ingram said…
You might notice none of these Progressive Politically Correct Commentators dare mention the ratio of violent crimes and the fact that violent crime dropped dramatically after stop and search tactics. Why don't they mention statistics' ?? Well for one thing their kids don't have to walk to school through areas so violent only 'stop and search' slows down the criminals.
Jason ON said…
Statistics also show that a homogenous socialist society has a better standard of living that heterogenous conservative cultures. Would you like to discuss that, Bobby Ingram, or accept that fact that the USA has a broad range of races, cultures and subcultures in which to contend with? Also, is it safe to demonize one group over or another, or is it our imperative as a society to elevate others to a place where crime isn't even an endgame to consider.
Bobby Ingram said…
Sure Jason I'll debate with You since You seem smart and polite.
 Pick any ONE of those points You mentioned and tell Us what You believe should be done.
 Thanks
Jason ON said…
All those need their own post. My point was statistics can, and are, used to prove just about anything. You say 'stop and frisk' reduces crime in the area. Well, so would banning poor black people from that area. Are you ready to ban poor black people? If not, then why are you ready to treat them like they're all potential perpetrators of violent crime?
Bobby Ingram said…
Jason ON Ok  I'll debate that one . According to Official stats violent crime dropped just after 'stop and frisk' was started and continued down as long as it continued, in the area's where it was applied. 
 Please show how stop and frisk DID NOT help reduce crime.
 Only a NAZI would think of banning blacks, please do not allow your argument to fall so low.
Jason ON said…
Please show a direct coorelation between stop and frisk and a crime drop. The economy also added jobs for the past two years. Perhaps that's why there's less crime. 

There is also less crime in (1) prisons, where people have no rights; (2) airports, where people have no rights; and (3) the military, where rights are incredibly reduced. 

I did not mention Nazis. You made a claim that stop and frisk has lowered crime. The article specifically mentions that white people are not targeted for the policy yet black neighborhoods are hit hard with stops and frisk searches.

Therefore, you must agree that stop and frisk is working because it's targeting black people, nearly exclusively. 

Since you agree that stop and frisk is working, and since it is targeting black communities then you must believe that black people perpetrate more crime than anyone else. All those facets considered, according to your statements, then you believe the only true way to reduce crime to it's lower levels is to reduce the number of black persons in a community. Either that, or admit that the black community should have less civil rights.

Studies, not statistics, have shown that crime is reduced with two main factors: (1) education and (2) access to jobs. Not a loss of rights or targeting a community.
Bobby Ingram said…
Your attempts to cast me as a racist forbid me from discussing this subject with You.
Jason ON said…
I'm not trying to cast you as anything. I'm merely telling you what you already said and putting it into context based on the article above.

You said stop and frisk was working
You agree with the article that stop and frisk mainly targets blacks.
Therefore you believe black people cause the most crime.

Or, did you not say,  the fact that violent crime dropped dramatically after stop and search tactics.?

I'm merely asking you to stand by and defend your own words, Bobby Ingram. Defend your argument.
Bobby Ingram said…
Perhaps if U ask a trusted friend to review what we said You might come to a different conclusion.
Chris Moore said…
Pretty sure I'm not a trusted friend, but I'll weigh in. There is a possibility that Jason is wrong about you, Bobby Ingram . It seems entirely possible to me that you actually didn't really read the article and your comment is just a driveby - you're so enthusiastic about getting your opinion out there that you'll gladly hammer your square peg into any hole that you come across, whether it fits or not. This was certainly my first assumption when I read your comments. Since the article isn't as much about stop and search as arbitrarily administered justice, what you've said is only tangentially related to the content at hand. 

If your posted comments do reflect your thoughts after having read the article, however, then Jason seems to have drawn some rational conclusions from what you've said.
 
To sum up, if you didn't read the article before commenting then, well, that's on you, but it might make sense to own up now. If you did, then perhaps you should show where Jason's logic - which he's put clearly - falls short, because I can't see it.

Continued whining about what you're being called is childish - you haven't been called anything.
Bobby Ingram said…
I read the article, But if I get static on "stop and frisk" being effective in slowing down violent crime there is no use in discussing the broader implications of Racism.
 Thanks for joining in.

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