If you are going to be a part of the community, keep your drama at home.
If you are going to be a part of the community, keep your drama at home. No one has time for shootings and fist fights and a fun event.
I wasn't at the expo today for two reasons: (1) I forgot about it and (2) I got talked in to going to a farmer's market and ended up being occupied most if the day. I thought about going tomorrow, now I'm not so sure. Biker-gang drama isn't what I need in my life right now. I'm too fat to be trying to dodge bullets.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29453858/shootings-stabbings-reported-denver-national-western-complex
I wasn't at the expo today for two reasons: (1) I forgot about it and (2) I got talked in to going to a farmer's market and ended up being occupied most if the day. I thought about going tomorrow, now I'm not so sure. Biker-gang drama isn't what I need in my life right now. I'm too fat to be trying to dodge bullets.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29453858/shootings-stabbings-reported-denver-national-western-complex
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I don't agree with putting innocent people in danger. If these guys want to shoot it out they should do so where no one is there but them.
We just tend to have less firearm enabled violence.
And I agree. You do not understand. I'm not saying it is OK to harm innocent people (God knows no cop ever hurt an innocent person!) But I am attempting to point out that this is a different society. Just because these people don't conform to your idea of how to live doesn't make them inferior beings.
We all live with "self imposed labels." Gay, Republican, artist, Indian, liberal, truck driver, father, nurse, etc. Everyone identifies themselves in their own way. This isn't a damn game of dress up for these men! It's a way of life.
Again, hurting innocent people is terribly wrong. But just because their lifestyle is ludicrous to you doesn't make it invalid.
Don't judge, especially things you don't understand.
And the word is spelled"cliques" not "clicks." Motorcycle Clubs are not cliques.
A lot of different motorcyclists here in this community - as many different and not-so-unique perspectives regarding two-wheels and the wind in your face. I think Jim Nichols post preceding mine has summarized the subject nicel.
+Kyong Kim has either blocked me or left the group or both. Plus the post he left is gone.
Thank you Kenneth Thompson and Jim Nichols. You both seemed to grasp where I was going. I'm sure because you weren't taking it personally. Plus you guys are really kind to me. Thank you.
I thought you were going to "Peace out!" Kyong. Just had to get that last word huh?
Jim Bartosevich is right in that most of these rivalries have nothing to do with patches or motorcycles. Which is why I wrote in my first comment, "these (public altercations) are meant to send a message about existing issues."
You should read what I wrote before you criticize.
Also, Jim Bartosevich why don't you tell the FBI that "the gangster shit gets saved for Hollywood" so the can take all of the motorcycle clubs off their Organized Crime Taskforce list. I'm sure the MC's would appreciate your help.
It's never a good idea to so broadly define another person's label.
I have coined and used that term since 1975ish and I will continue to be definitive about that labeling.
I know and understand the Biker mentality very well. I grew up with that around me. The Big Red machine, Moloch’s (Central Coast) and old man John, Pumpkin of the Weasels in Simi Valley all near and dear friends good gangs with good ethics respectable and they somewhat agree with my labeling . There are some really bad sheeple and shady side to bikers. The Vagos is a good example of the worst of the bunch as far as sheep mentality and poor ethics.
A lifelong childhood friend Paul Moniz I watched get sucked into that whole Biker thing (Vagos).
https://youtu.be/M8GvbBpXC6A
Also I was saying that most people who refer to themselves as "bikers" are NOT club members. You've got what I said backwards. Thousands of riders identify as bikers and you're labeling all bikers as club members, or more specifically GANG members.
That's a broad stroke of the paintbrush.
There comes a time in every MC'ists life to grow up and then hang up the pirate suit.