Does anyone remember the big to-do about Spider-Woman's butt?

Does anyone remember the big to-do about Spider-Woman's butt?
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Comments

David Blanar said…
Yes, quite rightly. It was disgusting. I don't understand the connection?
Jason ON said…
The point is: objectifying a cartoon female is apparently bad, but no one seems to have a problem with objectifying a cartoon male.
David Blanar said…
That is to misunderstand sexism and objectification. You've raised a false equivalence; context, history and symbols matter.
Jason ON said…
No, it doesn't. History is filled with examples of women being outraged at being objectified but no one batting and eyelash at men being objectified in the same manner. Not that it matters. It's completely natural to objectify those you're sexually attracted to. The problem isn't the act if objectification, the problem is with people who can't move beyond objectification and make a more intimate connection.
David Blanar said…
You apparently don't understand the difference between objectification and sexism. That's the relevant distinction in this case.
Jason ON said…
Objectification

Objectification is a notion central to feminist theory. It can be roughlydefined as the seeing and/or treating a person, usually a woman, as an object. In this entry, the focus is primarily on sexual objectification, objectificationoccurring in the sexual realm.

Sexism

prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

Not, I'm petty sure I now the difference.
David Blanar said…
That's a workable definition but you've missed out the crucial bit: sexism is predicated on an imbalance in power relationships within social institutions and interactions. Gender parity is not gender equality; for this reason it wouldn't matter if there were 100 mens' butts being objectified to a single woman's, it doesn't alter the fundamental context of a society which marginalises, represses and denies power to women.

It's also why I can instantly dismiss anyone who uses the term 'reverse sexism' … that's not a thing.
Jason ON said…
David Blanar,  

Gender parity is not gender equality?

*par·i·ty1
ˈperədē/
noun
1.
the state or condition of being equal, especially regarding status or pay.*

Seems like gender parity would, indeed, be gender equality.
David Blanar said…
Jason ON Yes, gender parity is not gender equality. This is self-evident in precisely the same way separate-but-equal toilets, water fountains or lunch counters is not racial equality.

Children understand this moral clarity reflexively.

Adults, apparently, pretend not to know it.

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