Have you heard about Stingray technologies?

Have you heard about Stingray technologies? I know I've posted about them before now - from their secretive function of mass data collection to the almost top secret  wall surrounding the programs and technology.

Let me ask you: considering the Fourth Amendment, is this technology legal?

I think not. What's so wrong with a warrant? If you have probable cause you should stand up and get the warrant. When a government is sneaking around, circumventing the law it's then more than ever that we need to remind ourselves why our founders created the Bill of Rights.

Originally shared by David Brin

The key point here is not the one pushed by law enforcement or by its civil libertarian opponents, both of whom suffer from technological myopia and “tradeoff disease” – a mental ailment that causes sincere people to make statements like “we must sacrifice a little privacy for public safety” or – alternatively – “we must be brave enough to endure some danger in order to preserve freedom.”  It is the noxious notion of the zero-sum game. That we must choose between freedom and safety for our children.  A choice that I absolutely refuse to make. A choice put forward by simplistic morons.
 
Proof: No people in all of human history have ever been safer than we are right now… and no people have ever been as free. 
 
The tech-myopia comes in when federal agents act as if tools like Stingray can be kept secret over an extended period.  My Gosh, what kind of society do they think they are living in?  All they accomplish with blanket and frantic gag orders is to increase the frisson of suspicion aimed toward them by citizens who know that they must be aware of what civil servants are doing, lest freedom vanish.
 
Temporary and tactical secrecy are useful tools for the Professional Protector Caste (PPC).  But technology and society keep moving forward and gag orders will not prevent it. 
 
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-big-secret-surrounding-stingray-surveillance/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20150701
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-big-secret-surrounding-stingray-surveillance/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20150701

Comments

Shannon Ware said…
On the one hand, I was able to read your post. That to me is a sign that our rights have not been completely taken away.

On the other hand, the loss of freedom is the veritable slippery slope: things seem okay until you realise that you are falling and can't recover.

There is a civil liberties issue, the question of our freedom. There is also a cost issue. We are paying big bucks for all of this semi-private self-surveillance.
Clinton Hughes said…
Shannon Ware I think you got something here. We are able to read the posting. The goverment is collecting what is being posted by the public.

If someone post something to a public forum then it there for everyone. Then there are the terms of agreements that eveeyone just clicks. We are all using someone's service and by using that we are giving consent to that provider, which is regulated by the goverment.

If you dont want your data collected do not put it out there. This is how it will be until or if it changes.
Clinton Hughes Hi Clinton
Tobias Harms said…
Unfortunately Clinton Hughes​ they use the same justification to be able to collect your position from phone companies. Think it's called third party doctrine. Since you voluntarily gave the phone companies the right to collect the information they are able to get it without issuing a warrant.
That you don't really have a choice short of not owning a phone does not matter to them.
Tobias Harms Hi Toby good morning how are you

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