Is the USA seeing a pagan revival?

Is the USA seeing a pagan revival? As more and more people are leaving the Big 3, some for atheism and others for agnosticism or spiritualism, we might be inclined to give an emphatic yes. However, we must first define what we mean by "paganism". Are we sticking to the original Latin for 'country bumpkin', going with the far more common definition of 'people who follow non-Abrahamic religions' or the new definition being put forth in this opinion piece: 'secularism and spiritualism without god'?

Which is why lately I’ve become interested in books and arguments that suggest that there actually is, or might be, a genuinely post-Christian future for America — and that the term “paganism” might be reasonably revived to describe the new American religion, currently struggling to be born.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/opinion/christianity-paganism-america.html

Comments

Eli Fennell said…
The Neo Pagans will not appreciate any of those usages of the term.
Jason ON said…
Eli Fennell they'll get over it or they'll cast useless spells at me, but those are all essentially what "pagan" meant, means or might possibly mean.
Jason ON Nobody is going to "cast useless spells" on anybody. Don't stress out my aura, mkay?
Eli Fennell said…
I wouldn't worry about 'spells'. That's like worrying if you offend a Christian they'll pray to God to do bad things to you. And not even, because not all Neo Pagans practice spellcraft.

I've had a lot of interactions with them over the years. And I think, since they've adopted the term, and are by some measures the fasting growing religious identification in the world, I won't grudge them claiming the term for their own.

And for them, it means more-or-less 'Someone whose religious/spiritual/mystical/magical practices are based on or significantly inspired by pre-Christian European Polytheism.'

To be fair, some of them also loop in non-European stuff, like Egyptian Polytheism, but generally most of them follow things which have some pre-Christian European basis like Druidism, Asatru, or the Greco-Roman traditions.
Stephen Dickson said…
I now know more people that are spiritual than religious personally.
Jason ON said…
Eli Fennell I know a lot about pagans, too. In the USA, yes, most pagans belong to newer paths,are reconstructionists or otherwise finding their own ways. And most of those are based off of Indo-European pre-Christian faiths (of course, while they typically predate Christianity, they we're more in parallel than serial until they phased out of the collective conscience).

The term "pagan" also comes from the Latin for 'country dweller'; those who held on to the 'old' faiths, much like rural Christians are now as urbanites are leaving formal religions for spirituality.

I've known witches, Wiccans, Satanists, Astrauians, Odinists, Hinduism, modern Druids, reconstructionist druids, Buddhists and more. And, for the most part, they we're fine people.

I've read more books and articles about ancient Celtic people and their religions than most modern practitoners who chose those paths. I've compared and contrasted those religions with others from across the globe.

And since I hold no bars when being critical or condescending towards people from the Abrahamic faiths, I feel no compunction doing the same with minority - pagan - religions. And if followers of those paths want to be offended, well let them.

No one can make you offended, you can only allow yourself be take offense.
Eli Fennell said…
Jason ON It's not about Offense, it's about Efficient Communication.

By analogy, you wouldn't use the word Buddhist to mean post-Judeo-Christian, as this article uses Pagan to mean post--Judeo-Christian, because there are Buddhists, and it would at best be very confusing to have to be constantly specifying which type of Buddhist you meant, i.e. 'Classic Buddhists' or 'Post Judeo-Christian'. Even if offending the Buddhists didn't concern you, it would just be hella confusing.

So why use a term already actively adopted by a religious community of millions that, as I said, may well be the fastest growing one in the world? Why not simply say Post Judeo-Christian?
Jason ON said…
Eli Fennell because terms - words - have meanings? Yes, "pagan" means "country dweller", or as we'd say in modern America: a hick. And yes, modern pre-Christian religious revivalists have taken the term as their own, but that doesn't change the origin or etymology of the word, it only changes modern context. And, since we're talking about modern context, 'pagan' is specific to those who are practicing non-Abrahamic nature-based religions; generally, but not limited to, of indo-European source. Not people who are 'spiritual' or agnostic.
Eli Fennell said…
I still think it just creates confusion, and I'm inclined to let the Neo Pagans have the term personally, but to each their own.
Jason ON said…
Words have meaning. When we take the meaning, or corrupt the meaning of words, we devalue them. "Neo-Pagan" is a much better term than "pagan" to describe most of the modern revivalists or reconstructionists, but those who are non-religious, but spiritual don't get to call themselves pagan at all. Because they're not.

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