I'm shutting down Google+ for the night and quite possibly for the weekend. Why? This stupid #gifwars thing people are so proud of. This Adam Black guy said he doesn't like gifs and now everyone is mass trolling him. Having been mass trolled like this I can relate to him easily enough. Have an opinion and the collective might of Google+'s lower class denizens jump on a bandwagon. I just saw a post where someone wanted to jump on board and had to get clarification she was tagging the proper Adam Black. She wasn't even connected to him ! Nor was she a part of the original discussion. She just wanted to follow the herd. When I called her out of it she claimed, "one gif doesn't make a troll." Perhaps not, but she's contributing to a larger troll effort. One straw doesn't break the camel's back, but thousands will. So, tonight, Google+ disgusts me. It probably will tomorrow as well. And possibly Sunday. I gave up Google+ for two months this spring
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A new study says Proto-Indo-European spread from the steppes of what are now the Ukraine, southern Russia and western Asia into Europe.
Some linguists believe humans spoke one original language, which diversified and changed and evolved into the 5,000 to 6,500 languages of today (estimates of the number vary). Other linguists and scholars believe human groups separated before language arose and developed separate, unique languages.
Proto-Indo-European came relatively late in the history of human languages, possibly 6,000 to 9,000 years ago. The original human language or languages may date back tens of thousands of years. Estimates vary, but some scholars say language developed around the time humans left Africa, around 50,000 years ago. Or it could have been earlier, as long ago as 100,000 years.
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https://youtu.be/NjuSVHwNJMk
Pre-historic period
Possible evidence indicating the earliest presence of Tamil people in modern-day Tamil Nadu are the megalithic urn burials, dating from around 1500 BCE and onwards, which have been discovered at various locations in Tamil Nadu, notably in Adichanallur in Tirunelveli District which conform to the descriptions of funerals in classical Tamil literature.
1500bc isn't very old man. That is fairly modern compared to others. The Sumerian civilization is twice as old, had their own language and we're the first culture in the world to invent written language.
There was a group of pre pottery neolithic people in turkey that were building monolithic structures 12,000 years ago. Göbekli Tepe, check it out.
Beyond homo sapiens were homo neanderthalis. Neanderthal had language as well, just not written language but they did draw pictures on cave walls.
Languages evolved along with the people that used it, geographically. You can easily follow this evolution in language by noticing the various dialects in different regions.
200 000 to 50 000 BCE: Evolution of the Tamil and their Language
200,000 BCE: Evidence of human occupation in the Land of Egypt c. being that of the – Nomadic – Hunter Gatherer stage of human evolution.
100,000 BCE: Ural-Altaic race that continued to evolve over the millennia, improving the stock of primitive humanity by intermarriage, developing cosmological sciences and political structures that sowed the seeds of our present civilized state, migrating across the earth and then disappearing, leaving immortal legends about itself behind.
70,000–50,000 BCE: First humans migrate to India
50 000 BCE: Kumari Kandam Civilization
30,000 ~ 16,000 BCE: Kumarikkaṇṭam is the name of a supposed sunken landmass referred to in the ancient Tamil and Sanskrit Matsya Purana. It is said to have been located in the Indian Ocean, south of present-day Kanyakumari district at the southern tip of India.
16 000 BCE: Kumari Kandam Submerged
13,000~16,000 BCE: Magdalenians were one of several hunter-gatherer cultures which gradually re-colonised Europe as the ice retreated, 16,000 to 13,000 years ago.
9000 BCE: Göbekli Tepe built modern day Turkey (Klaus Schmidt)
9000 ~ 5000 BCE: graet sphinx was carved from limestone (Robert Schoch)
I presume you do have some evidence to support these claims? ✋
http://www.robertschoch.com/
http://www.drexel.edu/materials/about/special/pyramids/
submerged metropolis in India (TamilCivilization)
http://www.pbs.org/thestoryofindia/timeline/1/
1,000,000 BCE: year sediment dated and stone tool Bifacial spear point asian style in mexico
https://youtu.be/eaY-oLTmaS8
Valsequillo Reservoir outside the city of Puebla, about 75 miles south of Mexico City. Juan Armenta Camacho stunned the world with his discovery of a mineralized elephant pelvis with engravings of elephants, big cats, and other extinct animals.
The engravings had been made when the bone was still fresh, still "green." Whoever made these engravings actually saw those animals, and probably even ate and prayed to them. The most amazing critter of them all was smack dab in the middle of the thing. A four-tusked gomphothere, an ancestor of the mastodon, and extinct in the U.S. for over a million years.
11,000 BCE: Human art found in florida engraved mastodon bone (James Kennedy).
Our history books taught us what we believed were the truth but that was blinded by a strong christian ethics of the bible is everything.
I agree that christian influenced science is horrible and needs to go away dude but the claims you are making are outside of the scope of evidence. There was a world wide exodus from africa. Humans spread out all over the world, not just india. That isn't even an issue. It might be debateable but the americas are the only place that early modern humans didn't migrate to between 60k and 80k years ago. Those early travellers didn't have much going on but survival skills man. The age of civilization, farming, animal domestication didn't begin until around 12k-13k years ago, at the end of the last ice age.
This cradle of civilization was in the land of Sumer dude, not in india. India' coming out party happened much later. Göbekli Tepe is about 11,600 years old. It lies in the northern part of what was the land of SUMER. It can be argued that this was the beginning of it all but it has been shown that no one lived there. It was built strictly as a place of worship, they weren't farming or domestication animals at that point but they did build megalithic structures. The civilization spread southward from there, not eastward. The oldest known cities in the world lie in mesopotamia but don't take my word for it, do your own research.
New evidence suggests that the sphinx is far older than previously thought. There exists evidence of massive water damage over time. For that to happen you have to go back to a time when the climate would allow this kind of erosion to occur, new theories suggest that the sphinx could be 12,000 years old or older. I doubt rainfall was the sole reason for this weathering. My own thought is that it was also ice age end related. The Egyptians merely reclaimed the statue...
Have you ever heard of the land of MU (or MUR)? It's thought to be mainly mythical but there are legends among Asian cultures that claim that a massive island or continent existed in antiquity. It sank to the ocean floor long before the age of current civilization. I did a post on it awhile back. Obviously no one has ever found any real evidence for such a place, it exists in the minds of people, much like the lost city of Atlantis. Maybe it has a similar origin as this kumarikkantam you mentioned. Either way it is simply folk lore unless some evidence were to surface(pardon the pun). Gotta be careful not to confuse ancient folklore with facts.
I found this book (DNA of the GODS) to be a really good read and explanation for the advent of mankind. It also details a pretty realistic timeliness for all this. In it, Dr. Hardy explains how there were more than one genetic manipulation and shows how this all happened, using the Sumerian Cuneiform record as its basis.
http://chris-h-hardy-dna-of-the-gods.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
Dude, I agree with you that india has a very old history but I don't think as old as the mesopotamian saga. I believe that all in all they are all connected anyways, it's just a matter of where the epicenter for this development was. There are ancient gold mines and stone circles in africa that were made 200,000 years ago. This is the region that the Sumerians called ABZU. It is also the regions where the Anunnaki were said to be mining gold and making lulus (human slaves) to mine the gold for them. The scope of this settlement is astounding. Check it out...
http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/txsa_4_adams.htm
on problem we have is Islam is Pakastan and they have destroyed over 30,000 temples and the submerged cities off the India coastline (Part of MU civilization) my be older then Mesopotamia.
This video shows cities that were made durring the ice ages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjuSVHwNJMk
part of a timeline did not post to you is about Annunaki and from the Sumerian tablets
450,000 BCE: Nibiru’s atmosphere begun deteriorating and became hostile to life. Anu dethroned Alalu and came on Terra with a craft. He was searching for GOLD which could be used to repair the damaged atmosphere of Nibiru.
(Our science reached the same conclusions without knowing the Sumerian stories. According to our scientists we can use gold nanoparticles to repair Earth’s damaged ozone layer).
445,000 BCE: Anunnaki extraterrestrials landed on Terra and established their base in Eridu, wanting to extractgold from the Persian Gulf. They were led by Enki, one of Anu’s sons.
416,000 BCE: The gold production dropped down, which made Anu come to Earth. Together with him came his other son, Enlil. Anu decided the mining to take place in Africa and promoted Enlil in charge of the Terran mission. Enki was sent to Africa!!!
400,000 BCE: In Southern Mesopotamia were seven developed villages. The most important were: The “Sipar” Spaceport, The “Nippur” Mission Control Center and the Metallurgy Centre from “Shuruppak”. The ore was transported from Africa in crafts. After the metal was refined it was sent up in the orbit. From there it was loaded in ships, which were constantly coming from Nibiru. Igigi was responsible with the delivery of the finished product.
300,000 BCE: The Anunnaki revolted against their masters because the work in the mines was too hard.
(My note: please read “Our true history”. The Anunnaki actually used as slaves in the mines another reptilian race from a planet called Inua - Close to Orion).
Enki and Ninkharsag had to find other workers. They took DNA samples from a female ape and after genetic manipulations the first Homo Sapiens were bred. They have been put to work and replaced the Anunnakis. At the same time, Enlil brought primitive workers from Edin, Mesopotamia. Homo Sapiens could procreate so they begun to proliferate.
200,000~160,000 BCE: oldest discovered Metropolis on Earth is located in the South-East African continent.The metropolis measures and astounding 1,500 square miles, it is thought to be part of a 10,000 square miles community and it was built around thousands of gold mines.
South america there may be cities older
It seems man popped up around the world in several places. and several continents.
The idea we re taught about the Clovis people migration from Siberia through Alaska is semi false it did happen but was not the only source of humans in this continent.
an example is the North American continent
9,000 BCE: No one knows exactly how long the Cherokee have lived in Western North Carolina.Artifacts that have been found indicate people lived here more than 11,000 years ago, at the end of the last Ice Age, and ancient Cherokee tales describe hunts of the mastodon that once foraged here.