I am not a gun nut, NRA lunatic or even a Republican. But yes, sometimes a good guy with a gun is just what you need.

I am not a gun nut, NRA lunatic or even a Republican. But yes, sometimes a good guy with a gun is just what you need.

Originally shared by ****
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/customer-shoots-masked-hatchet-wielding-attacker-in-burien-store/

Comments

Nicolas DeWolfe said…
Combat is always situational. You could be a good guy with a gun. If caught unaware, you and that gun are completely useless.
Lorne Thomas said…
Terris Linenbach you are stuck in the past. It has been proven that just about every thing you are proposing is counterproductive to the security of the public and society in general. There is a peer reviewed Harvard Law study that backs this up as well as numerous government studies and recent crime rates in places where strict gun control laws have been overturned.

I am in favor to basic firearms education being taught in school with advanced training and marksmanship being offered upon request upon completion of the basic course.

We teach sexual education and drug abuse education to alleviate society of the problems of drub abuse, STD, and teen pregnancy. Not teaching proper handling and fundamental safety of firearms is criminal as is shown by the number of firearm accidents in this nation.
ted kelly said…
Lorne Thomas Can I get a citation or link on that Harvard study ? Aside from the hooey about semi-autos and the smart guns I can't see anything provocative in his observation.
ted kelly said…
Thanks LT. I'm glad I read that. I stand by what I said though. I don't agree with the "tone" of the other guy but the study supports, and you agree it seems. with current laws regarding background checks. You both agree as do I that training is good. Obviously the manufacturers do want to sell more product. 
I think there is room (and a need) for agreement and discussion between peeps who agree more with him and those on a more rational footing (us types). 
We probably wont ever all agree about semi autos and the smart gun thing has possibility. If not in reality (wink) then at least there is room for discussion. It is possible to get them to see some of the daylight though. You just have to unclench various body parts (like your hand on the grip of that .45) and offer to take them to the range next time you go. 
(You know they really really want to)
Lorne Thomas said…
Training should be taught at a young age, you don't have as many fire arms accidents in the farm lands where the use of the rifle is some thing that all boys learn. It is a burden that society needs to take much as Sex Education and Drug Resistance Education are.

Background checks in this day of computer automation should be close to instantaneous as it is for a police officer in a patrol car. Waiting periods are also pointless, especially after one already owns one firearm, a second or third won't make a difference. Checks for bullets is just excessive regulation and repetitive, as the firearm that uses the ammunition is already registered.
ted kelly said…
I've bought and sold a couple of guns in the past couple of years in two states and the check did only take a few minutes. I would agree on the waiting period but for one thing - the person would have to be registered. Are you sure that's something you would like to see ? I sure don't.
I agree on the ammo too, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Hypothetically, a dangerous felon might buy a back alley gun and maybe, maybe - checks on ammo might (possibly) make it harder to load it.
Lorne Thomas said…
ted kelly if a criminal buys a gun on the black market, then all registering of ammunition would do is make a black market for bullets.
ted kelly said…
True - but see now you're just being stubborn and I'm done. This is why anti-gun nuts are unwilling to even discuss any of this. You have to relax that sphincter if you want "them" to do the same. Otherwise - it's likely that one day, sooner or later they will after all "come for our guns"
And just so you don't go away from this without thinking about an entirely likely situation that could illustrate my point:
Say John Doe gets into a little tiff with his girlfriend. Things get out of hand and after an encounter with the courts, he get disarmed. Now this sets him off and he goes home and his old target pistol and a bad attitude lead him to Walmart at 3am. That's where the bg check for ammo could work. Remember, he's a regular guy. He doesn't know some black market supplier - at least right then - but right now- no problem. One swipe of his atm card and he's all set.
Anyways - thanks for the link. I'll keep it handy for the next time I run into one of my gun hating peeps. They're entitled to fear guns but I don't like it when they're misinformed.
Lorne Thomas said…
I'm sorry ted kelly, you obviously misunderstand me. I am a liberal democrat, and a member in good standing of organized labor from California and I do not own a gun, or feel the need to.
I how ever understand that it is crazy to fear my neighbor might be armed and further understand that what is at stake is the most maligned civil liberty defined in the constitution.

If my neighbor wants to own a M60 belt fed machine gun, cool. Good for him. Hope he has a blast with it.
ted kelly said…
I did misunderstand.
I used to be a liberal. Before that I was a good little conservative. I've been an Occupier and Fellow with OFA. Now I'm just moderately tired and off to bed. 
Later Gator

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