Trolls and the Trolling Trollers Who Troll Them
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Bryan Foster - All the time. Sadly, some people on the internetz have not reached maturity. I say that this behavior has earned a BLOCK .
Yesterday 10:35 PM
Jason ON - And another one: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106463810311600911188/posts/6JKPqgBykfU
Am I going to have to block everyone he's connected to?
Am I going to have to block everyone he's connected to?
Yesterday 10:39 PM - Edit
Yesterday 10:40 PM - Edit
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Yesterday 10:42 PM - Edit
Jason ON - And then +Andrew Tamm's response to my posting:https://plus.google.com/u/0/112885755521259735422/posts/7ruej5f9EuU citing: "I feel as though my life is complete at this moment."
Yesterday 10:44 PM - Edit
Yesterday 10:44 PM - Edit
Yesterday 10:45 PM - Edit
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Yesterday 10:46 PM - Edit
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Jason ON - And then I'm called a retard: https://plus.google.com/u/0/112885755521259735422/posts/7ruej5f9EuU
Yesterday 10:47 PM - Edit
Jason ON - Instead of just respecting me he's decided to turn on a spam-cannon at me:https://plus.google.com/u/0/112885755521259735422/posts/RN188GHctho
We've already seen the maturity level of his friends so I can only guess how well this will go.
We've already seen the maturity level of his friends so I can only guess how well this will go.
Yesterday 10:59 PM (edited) - Edit
Jacy Green-Sprehe - I don't understand people who do this type of thing. Kind of like the people who create computer viruses just to annoy people. Because you can doesn't mean you should. Block him.
Yesterday 10:56 PM
Jason ON - I don't care about the occasional gif but this is ridiculous. And I asked politely and instead of respectfully following my wishes he decided to have his friends mock me. Screw that. Everyone needs to know how big of a jerk he's being. Maybe you like cat gifs, +Jen Wade, but I don't.
edit: looks like +jen wade's comment is no longer there. Is that because I blocked her?
edit: looks like +jen wade's comment is no longer there. Is that because I blocked her?
1:05 AM (edited) - Edit
Bryan Foster - +Jason ON - Return the favor. Ask all of your friends in your circles to block and report as spammers. That's actually what's being done to you, so you are justified.
Yesterday 11:01 PM
Jason ON - Hey look! Another one: https://plus.google.com/u/0/104987355197229091786/posts/5UxWJos2bG9
Yesterday 11:04 PM (edited) - Edit
Melissa Hill - Clearly you've never heard of or experienced the wrath of goons before. They do this all the time, especially when someone complains about their excessive gif posting.
Yesterday 11:02 PM
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Yesterday 11:04 PM - Edit
Jason ON - And now I'm being mocked by a "sandy vagina" in both this stream and this one:https://plus.google.com/106463810311600911188/posts/Q5GTU6HSbPk
edit: +Jen Wade's comment is gone again. Not sure if it's because I blocked her.
edit: +Jen Wade's comment is gone again. Not sure if it's because I blocked her.
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Stephen Dickson - I in fact hate cats +Jen Wade With a passion, so I unfollow poster of them very quickly.
Yesterday 11:12 PM
Daniella Ayala - You don't ask people to change their content. Major foul. You just uncircle them. Easy peasy.
Yesterday 11:12 PM
Jason ON - I didn't ask him to change his content, +Daniella Ayala, I asked him to remove me from whatever Circle I was in that he posted cat gifs to. It's very different.
Yesterday 11:14 PM - Edit
Jason ON - At least this guy is clueless: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101512901180344132759/posts/fFasuPAE7Yz, but he still jumped on the bandwagon.
Yesterday 11:18 PM - Edit
Brian Johnson - +Jason ON I don't think your request or reaction to what happened after is unreasonable. Depending on how much you enjoy his other content, I'd probably suggest muting it all until it quits. If he has nothing of value, then I'd just block him
Yesterday 11:19 PM
Jason ON - Actually, +Ben Mahon, he posted a lot to "Limited" so you can't see them unless you're in his Circles. And no, she didn't ask about my underwear but she did comment that she assumes I wear panties -- I merely corrected her assumption. It may be a "figure of speech" and I rolled with it.
edit: looks like +ben Mahon's posts aren't showing up anymore either. Is it because I blocked him, too?
edit: looks like +ben Mahon's posts aren't showing up anymore either. Is it because I blocked him, too?
1:07 AM (edited) - Edit
Yesterday 11:22 PM - Edit
Jason ON - +Brian Johnson , I did. I blocked him earlier this evening. However, all the plusses are coming into my notifications.
Yesterday 11:23 PM - Edit
Yesterday 11:24 PM - Edit
Jason ON - Wow, vulgarity and a personal attack. Good job, +Ben Mahon! So according to you it's okay that I get spammed all over G+ because I respectfully asked to be removed from a cat gif Circle, but when I'm told to not get my panties in a bunch by a pretty girl and I reply with boxer-briefs I'm a creep and a, how did you put it, "_goddamn vagina_?" Really?
Yesterday 11:28 PM - Edit
Stephen Dickson - What you in fact missed Ben is that Jason followed the developed way of doing thing's around here. Ask nicely to be removed from said circle is always step one.
Yesterday 11:29 PM
Jason ON - I wasn't tagged on the original one of these, but one of his followers made sure I got tagged:https://plus.google.com/112885755521259735422/posts/UtxMGVxxCFX
Yesterday 11:29 PM - Edit
Bryan Foster - sigh +Jason ON - The "public" door is open and it already feels like the good old days of Google Buzz ! "Can't take you anywhere, dude..." :)
Yesterday 11:30 PM
Jason ON - And another one from someone I'm sure I already blocked:https://plus.google.com/u/0/104987355197229091786/posts/fyGqrTB2C57
Yesterday 11:30 PM - Edit
Jason ON - From tagging me on Care Bears to cat pics:
https://plus.google.com/104532438030549979526/posts/TLqLP8THmV5
https://plus.google.com/u/0/104532438030549979526/posts/6uFCdkqYKiF
https://plus.google.com/u/0/104532438030549979526/posts/efM8iFsSbrs
https://plus.google.com/104532438030549979526/posts/TLqLP8THmV5
https://plus.google.com/u/0/104532438030549979526/posts/6uFCdkqYKiF
https://plus.google.com/u/0/104532438030549979526/posts/efM8iFsSbrs
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Yesterday 11:33 PM - Edit
Jason ON - Really, +Matt Mastracci? Cool. Now the question is did they delete them themselves or did Google delete them?
Yesterday 11:37 PM - Edit
Yesterday 11:38 PM
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Robin Steiger - i doubt you'll get the +NicKitten St Pierre level of g+ meme. But, time will only tell.
Yesterday 11:41 PM
Matt Mastracci - I think that non-public posts are invisible to anyone not in a circle shared with (or not in the extended circles, if that was chosen), regardless of whether you have the link or not.
Yesterday 11:41 PM
Yesterday 11:43 PM - Edit
Matt Mastracci - I won't pretend to understand exactly how circles work. They're still a mystery to me, but I'm guessing that this is why they are 404ing for me and I'm assuming they're not for you. :)
Yesterday 11:44 PM
Bryan Foster - +Jason ON - simply block and report as they come in. Pain in the butt, but it's a solution.
Yesterday 11:49 PM
Jason ON - Doing that, +Bryan Foster. it is pain in the butt. Sadly, now I can't find the original post where I asked him to remove me from his cat Circle. Grr...!
Yesterday 11:50 PM - Edit
Jason ON - I just did ever search I can think of for Andrew Tamm's original post since I posted a link to his Profile/posts and not the individual posts when I asked to be removed from his cat gif Circle. The post would be between 9 and 9:30pm (mountain time) on one of Andrew Tamm's "limited" posts and I'm the first commentor unless it's been pruned (comment removed) from the record. Hopefully Google has a record of it.
Yesterday 11:59 PM - Edit
Yesterday 11:59 PM - Edit
Robin Steiger - The comment is still there. It would have probably been wiser if you just shared a post between the two of you.
+Andrew Tamm is a nice chap, despite my attempt to kill him.
+Andrew Tamm is a nice chap, despite my attempt to kill him.
12:05 AM
Jason ON - Heh, I found it. I had to unblock him to do so, but I found it:https://plus.google.com/112885755521259735422/posts/78dwnvvgh4p
Me: (nicely, I think)
Jason ON - +Andrew Tamm, hey man, I don't give one iota of care about animated gifs, cat videos or whatever it is you insist on populating my stream with. I notice that you are posting to "limited" and therefore to some Circle you have me in. I would appreciate being taken out of that circle or I'm going to have to unfollow you. Thanks.
Me: (nicely, I think)
Jason ON - +Andrew Tamm, hey man, I don't give one iota of care about animated gifs, cat videos or whatever it is you insist on populating my stream with. I notice that you are posting to "limited" and therefore to some Circle you have me in. I would appreciate being taken out of that circle or I'm going to have to unfollow you. Thanks.
12:05 AM - Edit
Jason ON - He might be, +Robin Steiger, and again, I'm not indifferent to a good joke. The first couple of Public posts with my named plussed I took as just that: a joke. Then all his friends started plussing me and my stream/notifications went wild. And then I'm being called names and end up having verbal assaults hurled my way.
But yes, I took it public. I wanted other's opinions to weigh my reaction against and everyone who called me a name, verbally assaulted me or plussed me in animosity showed their true colors.
Hopefully Google will take notice. They probably won't delete accounts, but maybe it will be something to talk about at a staff community meeting. Maybe this will influence a future version of G+. Maybe there will be a block+troll in the blocking function. Maybe there will be nothing.
Popular bloggers and writers, people like +Robert Scoble and +Mike Elgan, might get a lot more trolling than I did today and they might get it much more often than I do, but they're popular people whose names and opinions might offend when not intending to. I'm not as popular as they are. I don't have tens of thousands of people hanging on my every word and I didn't do anything to be trolled other than asking to be removed from a Circle I didn't want to be in.
You can clearly see in my original post to Andrew that I did not want to uncircle him, but instead asked to me removed from whatever cat gif circle he had me in. I did not want to ignore him or block him, either. I just wanted the animated gifs to stop filling my stream. I wasn't offensive or rude (okay, maybe rude, depending on what tone of voice you read my comment in) but somehow his followers, even people I've been connected to since G+Day1 started spamming my stream with cat gifs. Heck, if you go over that first post I even say dog gifs would be better as an attempt to alleviate the tension.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable, +Robin Steiger and in the future I may unblock some of those people but I can't imagine that future right now.
But yes, I took it public. I wanted other's opinions to weigh my reaction against and everyone who called me a name, verbally assaulted me or plussed me in animosity showed their true colors.
Hopefully Google will take notice. They probably won't delete accounts, but maybe it will be something to talk about at a staff community meeting. Maybe this will influence a future version of G+. Maybe there will be a block+troll in the blocking function. Maybe there will be nothing.
Popular bloggers and writers, people like +Robert Scoble and +Mike Elgan, might get a lot more trolling than I did today and they might get it much more often than I do, but they're popular people whose names and opinions might offend when not intending to. I'm not as popular as they are. I don't have tens of thousands of people hanging on my every word and I didn't do anything to be trolled other than asking to be removed from a Circle I didn't want to be in.
You can clearly see in my original post to Andrew that I did not want to uncircle him, but instead asked to me removed from whatever cat gif circle he had me in. I did not want to ignore him or block him, either. I just wanted the animated gifs to stop filling my stream. I wasn't offensive or rude (okay, maybe rude, depending on what tone of voice you read my comment in) but somehow his followers, even people I've been connected to since G+Day1 started spamming my stream with cat gifs. Heck, if you go over that first post I even say dog gifs would be better as an attempt to alleviate the tension.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable, +Robin Steiger and in the future I may unblock some of those people but I can't imagine that future right now.
12:26 AM - Edit
Robin Steiger - Totally understandable.
I don't know where it is off the top of my head, but there is a plugin (for chrome, i think) that will let you choose which circles to view instead of your stream in its entirety. In such an instance, you can arrange your circles how you want and not worry about content shared with you that you're not interested in viewing in your stream.
You're lucky that all you got were cat gifs. I have had to mute several gifs and pictures of a sexually explicit nature because I tend to do most of my G+ browsing at work. I otherwise don't mind them though, haha.
I don't know where it is off the top of my head, but there is a plugin (for chrome, i think) that will let you choose which circles to view instead of your stream in its entirety. In such an instance, you can arrange your circles how you want and not worry about content shared with you that you're not interested in viewing in your stream.
You're lucky that all you got were cat gifs. I have had to mute several gifs and pictures of a sexually explicit nature because I tend to do most of my G+ browsing at work. I otherwise don't mind them though, haha.
12:36 AM
12:39 AM - Edit
Jason ON - +Robin Steiger, you can also use the Circles list on the left hand side to filter your stream by Circle. No extension required. I like viewing the full stream though unless I'm looking for something specifically like IRL friends happenings and they don't show up because my stream moves too fast.
12:42 AM - Edit
Linda Lawrey - That means a blocking if someone did that to me. Or ignored. You don't have to have your experience ruined here.
12:57 AM (edited)
Linda Lawrey - Send Feedback and explain that after asking someone to remove you from a circle of gifs, they had a hoard of assholes gang up on you and mention you in gif posts. Don't respond to any of them. Just block each of them. Eventually they will get a life. It's him that will take the fall for all that they do after that. Report him for abuse and harassment if need be.
1:04 AM
Linda Lawrey - I suspect that +Natalie Villalobos might need to hear about this kind of thing happening so that the team can be prepared to deal with this sort of thing when it happens.
Next time, don't ask anyone anything. Just pull out the block feature and whack them with it.
Next time, don't ask anyone anything. Just pull out the block feature and whack them with it.
1:06 AM
Jason ON - I did that with his followers, +Linda Lawrey, but since I'd been following him for a while I just thought I'd ask to be removed from his gif Circle.
1:12 AM - Edit
Brenda Curtis - My first reaction is why would not want to unfollow him if you hate his posts. Then I realized what the real problem is, that you have to see all of his stuff in your stream if he has you in his circles. THat's it right? It's late and I'm getting tired. I might be misunderstanding.
1:13 AM
Jason ON - I just didn't want to see a particular kind of post. I still wanted to see the rest of them.
1:15 AM - Edit
Brian Johnson - +Jason ON there's actually an extension if you use Chrome that will allow filtering -- 'Stream Filter BETA for Google Plus'. I downloaded it to help with the animated gifs and am also using it to keep out some other things....
9:32 AM
Steve Ruge - +Jason ON Don't you just love all the new refugees over here? And Jason shouldn't have to use any filtering plug-ins. I have a feeling G+ will explode for a few weeks while the Facebook people get settled in. I like how all of Andrew's friends are coming over here and posting comments and +1ing each other on your comments. Lame.
9:48 AM (edited)
Jason ON - One of them went through every post I made for the past few days and +1'd them all for some reason last night. I'm not sure if that means he just wants to follow me, or what.
9:55 AM - Edit
Steve Ruge - I suspect they think if they +1 your comments they will show up in that little +1 section of their profile so they can keep track of them.
9:57 AM
Bryan Foster - +Jason ON - so much for trying to be civil. I agree with +Linda Lawrey , next time _ block_ and don't ask anything. Personally, i HATE animated gifs, especially here on G+. They should be banned. Too easy to pull crap like this, and really ruin someone's G+ experience.
10:39 AM
Linda Lawrey - +Jason ON Hey, they don't know it and for someone that does that to you, you have to not care enough to not care. Block and forget them. A lot less stress.
12:18 PM
Jason ON - Like I said last night, I blocked a bunch of people regarding this trolling. More than I ever blocked on Buzz and G+ together, up to that point.
I still don't like blocking people though. It's censorship and I'm against censorship.
I still don't like blocking people though. It's censorship and I'm against censorship.
12:22 PM - Edit
Curtis Edenfield - I understand what your saying Jason. I haven't blocked people, unless the are a obvious meta spammer or a business that I don't agree with.
12:25 PM
Jason ON - The good news is I haven't gotten any notifications with cat gifs so far today. I don't know if that's because I blocked everyone in +andrew tamm's Circles, or not. Maybe they're still doing it and I'm just not seeing it.
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