In Hobby Lobby the SCotUS should have sided on the separation of church and state and not chosen the side of...

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In Hobby Lobby the SCotUS should have sided on the separation of church and state and not chosen the side of religious ideals overriding the law of the land.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/hobby-lobbys-troubling-aftermath

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Martha Velazquez said…
Once Pandora's box is open...
September 30, 2014 at 11:18 PM
Christof Harper said…
Hobby lobby wasn't a constitutional case at all.
September 30, 2014 at 11:50 PM
Jason ON said…
Probably not, Christof Harper, but the Roberts Court wanted to stamp their libertarian hands all over the separation clause and that's what they did.
October 1, 2014 at 1:53 PM
Christof Harper said…
Had nothing to do with the separation clause. (I think maybe you might mean establishment clause). Was PURELY a case based on a Clinton Era law that protects religious freedoms from government de facto establishment through side effects of laws.
October 1, 2014 at 3:29 PM
Christof Harper said…
(Look, the media lies. That's what it DOES. just because some people want to believe the lies just because of some current event doesn't mean they aren't still lying. The case has facts. And some really good points. Points the media won't ever tell you about. Because they lie)
October 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM
Jason ON said…
Yeah, the clause where the Constitution makes it illegal for Congress to mix church and state. Or, so over two hundred years of court decisions tells us.

With Hobby Lobby the Court personal religious belief is paramount over the law of the land. They decided that a company has a right to inflict it's religious beliefs on others who may not share those ideologies. They chose a family's religious concerns over the secular law. If that's not a violation of the establishment clause, I don't know what it. The court, the legislature the executive shouldn't be picking and choosing it's favorites when it comes to religion. 

When you claim the media lies, you mean Fox News, right? Most media misinforms or puts a shiny happy screen over everything, it's only Fox News that outright lies.
October 1, 2014 at 3:50 PM
Christof Harper said…
No. I mean all media lies.

And you completely miss what is going on in the hobby lobby case and what the constitution actually says. There is a Clinton Era law in place that is the core of this. If, IF you can explain it and why you think it doesn't apply, I will discuss this further. Otherwise I am pis sing into deliberately uninformed wind.

Actually, I get more researchable facts from fox than CNN or msnbc (and more from smaller outlets than either)
October 1, 2014 at 3:55 PM
Jason ON said…
Then keep on pissing, Christof Harper. I'm not here to entertain you. If you want a more agreeable conversation go find Fox News' stream or The Heritage Foundation or CATO Institute. Or ALEC.
October 1, 2014 at 4:18 PM
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